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I love browsing the Suggestions forum but am seriously blown away by how many times people post threads suggesting/requesting/demanding that dA alter the way the site works in order that they never have to see anything that isn't to their specific personal taste.

I'm not talking about the Mature Content filter or submissions with violate dA's policies here. I mean people expecting the entire site to change so that they don't ever encounter a thumbnail-sized image of a cat or My Little Pony or [insert other random object or concept here] while looking at the front page in Newest or Popular modes.

I find myself typing pretty much the same thing to these people on a regular basis, so thought it would be easier to simply make a journal about it that I can link to. So here it is.

Ok, first of all, context. dA is a huge, global website for artists and art appreciators of all ages with all sorts of tastes in what they create and look at. The front page of dA can be configured to show the most popular deviations for a set amount of time, or the newest. It is not your personalised page for only the things you like. It is an overview. Once you get into actually searching and browsing through the galleries, you can be more specific about what you see, but the front page is not a place for personally tailored content.

Secondly, perspective. You're complaining about a few thumbnails of art with subject matter that doesn't appeal to you temporarily entering your field of vision. This doesn't violate or harm you in any way. You just saw something that you didn't think was amazing. Such is the nature of public places on the internet. If you go to an art gallery in the physical world, chances are you'll see some stuff that you're not crazy about. So you walk into a different section of the gallery and look at things you like. When you're watching tv, you'll probably run into some programming that doesn't float you boat. So you change the channel and watch something else. The same principal can be applied to dA.

There are lots of ways to find and view art that you love while having minimal contact with stuff that you don't get a kick out of. Here are a few to get you browsing more happily...

Watch deviants whose art you enjoy
devwatching artists who submit the kind of art you like means that their creations will appear directly in your message centre, giving you the most personalised browsing experience of all - one that you are in complete control of (you can choose to unwatch deviants at any time), that you create for yourself to enjoy at your leisure.

Watch groups that display art you like
As with devwatching individual artists, you can watch groups whose submissions appeal to you. There are thousands of groups on dA, some focussed on a particular medium and some more subject-focussed. Watching them adds their submissions to your message centre - your personal art gallery!

Channels
Channels are a great way to create an entire page made up of 'feeds' of art that you love, based on artists, search terms, galleries etc. Rather than try to explain how this works here, I'll direct you to this FAQ which tells you how to set up your own personal channels so you get a live feed or art that you enjoy on it's own page FAQ #45: What are Channels and how do I use them?

Learn to search more effectively
You can search using the bar at the top from any page on dA. A good way to find art that you like while avoiding things that don't tickle your fancy is to learn the ins and outs of effective searching. This FAQ explains in detail how to do it FAQ #577: How do I use the Search?

I haven't even touched on More Like This or browsing specific galleries here. These are just some useful ways to find art to enjoy without ever having to visit the front page :aww:


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:iconnameda:
Nameda Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Professional General Artist
the only thing I hate my personal pet peeves are nude "art" that mainly show private parts or women with pressed up boobs works that would suit more any porn page than dA for my personally that is no art... and dont get me wrong, I do enjoy good and tasteful nude ART.
But sometimes I think it would be a good thing if you could blend out the art you dislike most. That would stop a lot dArama ;)
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RockstarVanity Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013   Photographer
You could use your Mature Content filter to avoid seeing nudity (although that would remove ALL nudity), but beyond that dA doesn't filter or deny submissions based on personal perceptions of quality or whether or not an individual likes something.
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Nameda Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013  Professional General Artist
I know :) As I said I don't want to remove everything mature :)
and filtering quality would be quite difficult I see that the same way as you :)
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phoenixleo Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013
One more deviation complain thread, and I will flood stuff again. D:
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phoenixleo Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013
It is not your personalised page for only the things you like. It is an overview.
That! Very much that! It shouldn't have been that hard to understand either.
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:iconrockstarvanity:
RockstarVanity Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013   Photographer
Exactly! I don't understand why, with so many other options available, people actually choose to look at areas of the site which they know will annoy them.
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phoenixleo Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013
It's like a brochure. It has the best of things offered art wise in the front page. Not someone's browser homepage.
Many don't realize how powerful +channels can be. I hope dA develops it further and puts up more slots.
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CapnSkusting Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013  Professional General Artist
This new "More Like This" thing (which says Beta, and I'm not a Beta tester, so why am I getting it, anyways?) has really got to go. It doesn't seem to work very well anyways. If I click on a thumbnail of a "cat", I am really not seeing why pinups or monsters should show up under "More Like This". Even in my own gallery, when I look at one of my own PHOTOS, over in the "More Like THis", I see drawings.

What we really really need is the ability to search our faves. That would be extremely useful, especially when trying to find old faves that could be used in journal features.
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RockstarVanity Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013   Photographer
It would be lovely to be able to search our faves! Even being able to browse by category (the way you can in deviants' galleries) would be fantastic. I have my faves in folders, which helps, but it would still be awesome to have more tools to use to look through our favourite art, especially as part of the reason for faving is often to come back to something again later.
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CapnSkusting Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013  Professional General Artist
There's lots of things I would love to go back to.
It just takes too long to find them the way things are now.
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DraculeaRiccy Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013  Professional
It's somehow funny. When the fans of something popular like Twilight or My little Pony become annoying, their haters decide to become even more annoying.

I'm really glad we live in a tolerant world :dummy:
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:iconrockstarvanity:
RockstarVanity Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013   Photographer
It's like Justin Bieber. Online, a lot of the contact you have with stuff is people bitching about it. The big public hate actually brings things to an even wider audience and gives them even more exposure!
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DraculeaRiccy Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Professional
That's true ...I wouldn't even know Justin Bieber if there were no people bitching about him :XD:
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EveLivesey Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013  Professional Photographer
No-one has the right to judge what is art - because no matter what it is - someone will find it beautiful :hug:
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WhenThingsGoBoom Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013
I love what you just said ^^
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EveLivesey Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Professional Photographer
Big :hug:
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RockstarVanity Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013   Photographer
I agree. There's plenty of stuff that doesn't float my boat, but I don't object to it existing or temporarily entering my field of vision.
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EveLivesey Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013  Professional Photographer
Well why would you (unless of course it's offensive)? I just don't get it and I'm sure a lot of people think that about my photos ;-)
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pica-ae Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013  Professional Interface Designer
Very well said :clap:

People are so self-centered… I always want to go and yell "The world does not turn around you!"

Reminds me of some apps for facebook that let's you turn every baby picture someone posts into a cat picture :|
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:iconrockstarvanity:
RockstarVanity Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013   Photographer
Exactly. There are so many ways to customise your dA experience. Funnily enough, when I post this information in response to people's complaint-suggestions in the forums, they rarely respond...
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pica-ae Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013  Professional Interface Designer
I actually hardly browse anymore for some time, cos I had set up channels and follow groups to see what I want to see :) It wasn't necessary to browse. Even tho I am back to it now, just cos you can see so much amazing different stuff if you stay open minded.

I guess they feel caught :B And don't want to admit that they ranted pointlessly/stupidly ;)
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neurotype Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
So much this. And if you're feeling all ragey about something, VENT TO YOUR FRIENDS SOMEWHERE PRIVATE. There is no reason to make it everyone's problem.
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RockstarVanity Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013   Photographer
I especially love that people's issues over this stuff so often end up in the Suggestions forum, with the suggestion being "make dA more to my own personal taste". That's not a suggestion, dammit!
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neurotype Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I know, right? :slow: It's just like, it shouldn't be that hard to figure out other people want things a different way.
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draenei-friend Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Unfortunately some people intentionally troll and label a dog as a cat etc. :)
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RockstarVanity Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013   Photographer
Holy crap, imagine accidentally seeing a picture of a dog when you were looking for a picture of a cat! ;)
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PorcelainPoet Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013
I hate most of the things on the front page, the majority of the time. Personal solution? I don't look at it. :D
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RockstarVanity Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013   Photographer
Me neither. It's my landing page when I arrive at dA, but I never browse from it directly. I find it weird when people talk about seeing stuff they don't like "all over the place" cause I rarely encounter art that I don't like. Maybe I'm less easily annoyed, but I think it probably has more to do with the fact that I customise my own browsing experience so much.
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PorcelainPoet Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013
I love the work of the people I devwatch. And I figure that's the point in watching other artists.
It's my way of customizing what I choose to look at. I could really care less about what's on the front page.
I think people complaining about that are forgetting that there are a lot of other options.
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ArtByCher Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013   Traditional Artist
That pretty much says it all :clap:
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:iconrockstarvanity:
RockstarVanity Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013   Photographer
:bow:
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alexandrasalas Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I couldn't have said this better myself.
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RockstarVanity Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013   Photographer
:tighthug:
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Astrikos Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013   General Artist
Well said. :salute:
People can't grasp the concept of using a filter, or understanding the simple fact that there are 23 million people here with deviations everywhere.
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RockstarVanity Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013   Photographer
Isn't it just crazy to think of there being 23 million people here? How amazing is that! :boogie:
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Astrikos Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013   General Artist
It's awesome! :iconlovelyemoteplz:
:iconlawooplz:
This community is amazing.
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ce3Design Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013  Professional General Artist
When did a pretty pony become such a target of hatred? What is this world coming to? I personally like the incredible variety found on the main page stream.
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:iconrockstarvanity:
RockstarVanity Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013   Photographer
I know, right? Some people have major issues with ponies. I don't get why they're so offensive!
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ce3Design Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013  Professional General Artist
It might stem from their childhood just like some people are afraid of clowns. I got it...those people who hate ponies, fell off one as a child.

Members who complain about ponies, make me want to start drawing them myself =-] almost.
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Maybeawriter Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:iconclapplz: Hear hear.
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:iconce3design:
ce3Design Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013  Professional General Artist
Thank you (bow), thank you (bow =-]
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KrisColey86 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013
Good stuff. I hear ya though. For awhile I was very unhappy with the uploading system, it took so long to upload just one image (photography for me and when I just joined I wanted to upload quite a bit on here) that I gave up for awhile. Since the stash system came along with the lightroom plugin, I'm so much happier. I can upload as much as I want, and submit them to my profile as I please. So much easier than before, just LOVE the new system.
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RockstarVanity Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013   Photographer
It's so awesome to hear such positive feedback about the new submissions system :D
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pookalook Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I agree - people should have a little bit more sense than that.
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RockstarVanity Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013   Photographer
I wish common sense was a contagious condition!
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:iconpookalook:
pookalook Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Right!? We'd have a lot less problems!
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iam-SHERLOCKED Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm okay with the MLP and such, it's the bad porn that gets me. But that's what reporting is for :D.
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RockstarVanity Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013   Photographer
Exactly! It's really nice to see someone who appreciates the value of just reporting stuff that should be here :nod:
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iam-SHERLOCKED Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:hug:
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scullfase Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013
People are getting lazy now a days.
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